Old BAR vs New BAR

Discussion in 'Browning BAR Rifle' started by gixxerman, Dec 2, 2015.

  1. gixxerman

    gixxerman Copper BB

    Hi Guys. New to the forum, but I've had a few Browning over the years (my fav so far is my BLR in 22-250). Anyways, I want a semi auto in 308 for hunting; mostly whitetail. Ive been looking at getting a brand new BAR Safari MKII but they are going between 1000 and 1300. I have found a very nice 1969 Belgium BAR Grade 1 (true Belgium) with the original iron sights. It is in 90-95% condition and i can get it for 750. I have never handled a BAR; old or new. Can anyone let me in on the significant differences between the two, and possibly any positives/negatives between them as well. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!!
  2. SHOOTER13

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  3. Shawn Healy

    Shawn Healy Copper BB

    I have thought about buying a BLR just to see if I like the platform... But I like the 100% Belgium made BAR which went into production in 1967 and was a 100% Belgium until 1974 (if I recall). The quality and craftsmanship of those firearms was fantastic. Now if you were talking about a rifle scope from 1969 vs a rifle scope from today, the scopes are hugely improved. The rifles have improved as well but you are shooting a big target. What can you tell me about your BLR? Why is it your fav?
  4. MZ5

    MZ5 .270 WIN

    Gixxerman, there are some parts diagrams/schematics at Brownells.com that you could look through. They show enough that one can see relatively small design changes (improvements, I expect?) since the originals. Or at least I can, since my BAR is a variant of the current Short Trac. One thing I think I know is that the earlier BARs did not have an adjustable gas block. The current ones, at least the Short Trac and Long Trac, do. Not positive about the Safari. Does that matter? Not to most people. It matters if you want to shoot Superformance or Light Magnum ammo, or similar, but apart from that and tuning where your brass falls on the ground, it doesn't matter too much.

    Do all the parts interchange? No. Current production parts will be more readily available from Browning. For the original ones, Browning or Brownells may have some, or you may have to go to Numrich. Again, this is not a big deal for most people, since most people rarely or never need parts for their BARs.

    Let us know which way you decide to go!
  5. gixxerman

    gixxerman Copper BB

    Thanks for the info guys. I def want an adjustable gas block, and getting parts is always a consideration. I'll prolly go down the new Mark 2 Safari route; don't see a big reason not to.

    As for my BLR, besides how good it looks, it is accurate as hell. I love the 22-250 round. I don't plink with it, only use it for coyotes and chucks now. Whatever you do, do NOT disassemble the bolt/action to clean. You will have to send it away to get fixed lol.
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  6. Shawn Healy

    Shawn Healy Copper BB

    Nice. and I'm looking for a round and gun for coyotes and smaller game and use it for some plinking. I will look up the 22-250 round on youtube to see what I can learn. I like the 7mm-08 but that might be overkill for smaller game. 243 might work as well. Thanks for your input and good luck with finding the bext BAR for your goals.
  7. gixxerman

    gixxerman Copper BB

    The 22-250 round is FAST! I use hornady superformance 50gr ammo...its ripping out of the muzzle at 4000 fps with 1776 ft/lbs of energy. It is very flat out to 300 yards (-4.3 inches at 2690 fps and 800 ft/lbs energy). If you want a varmint round, its hard to beat. It is know for burning up barrels, but as long as you dont plike a TON, your ok. I read that it takes up to 3000- 4000 rounds before the throat erosion becomes noticeable.
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